How Catholics ought to dress

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Now that the heat of summer is upon us, this is a good opportunity to briefly review the topic of how Catholics should apparel themselves.

Pastor's Corner for Sunday, July 7, 2013

How Catholics ought to dress
Summer is on us and with it, the heat. Which makes us feel the need to discard layers of clothes and be freer with our movements. With this desire though, necessarily comes the obligation to continue dressing modestly, and here are some tips about accomplishing this in our own day and age.

It is good to review the dress code that should be posted at the entrance of churches in accordance with Canon Law (CIC 1262, 2). Though this reflects the Church’s mind for sacred places, it nonetheless also comprises a general rule of thumb for public life. And while every Catholic has rights (to receive the sacraments), he or she also has duties to fulfill in order to maintain these rights; thus why the Holy See has gone so far (for the preservation of souls) to prescribe: “to remove from communion and even from Church, improperly dressed women.”[1] – this rule can of course be applied also to men.

Another quick rule of thumb is to dress in a dignified manner that will evoke respect. For in addition to providing an edifying example, our dress also defines who we are in society. Thus the appropriateness of a mother’s or father’s dress (particularly in the privacy of home life) can positively or negatively impact the formation of their children – this important aspect is not only contingent upon the modesty of the clothes worn by the parents, but even by their quality, that is, dressing shabbily versus well within one’s means.

An even further consideration for men and women is to dress properly according to their nature, or respectively, according to their masculinity or femininity. For men, this means they should not wear tight-fitting clothes or in general, go shirtless in public (and especially for fathers, even around the home in front of their children).

For the ladies, to dress like a man (such as wearing pants) is improper and contradicts a woman’s God-given femininity. That this is not merely an “old fuddy duddy’s” quibble, should be evident when we realize that the proponents of unisex clothing have also been the same “gender theory” people behind the promotion of sins against nature.

It is interesting to note that the “Lion of Campos”, Bishop de Castro Mayer, once famously remarked in a pastoral letter that he would prefer a woman to wear a mini-skirt rather than pants. For while the mini-skirt was immodest, it was at least feminine, while pants contradicted a woman’s nature (thus the former attacked the senses, while the latter warped the intellect).

Therefore, so-called “woman’s pants” (usually worn out of pleasure or commodity) are not the proper garb of a Catholic (or Marian-like) girl or lady, either in the parish, domestic or social life. However, if the wearing pants by women cannot be completely avoided due to the circumstances of our time (profession, security, extraordinary activity, etc.), they should at least disappear from family, social and parish life.

Concerning modest dress – and this applies to both men and women – the underlying principle is that it should more cover, rather than expose oneself to the allurement of the public eye. Thus both men and women should dress so as to inspire respect and chaste love, as opposed to the enkindling of lust.

Albeit, finding proper clothes today can be very difficult today, as most fashions are terribly provocative and have been designed to induce impurity. This is especially the case for women’s fashions; however, good women (using a bit of resourcefulness) can still manage to dress with modest attractiveness and charm – and without appearing that they have just stepped off a set of “Little House on the Prairie”!

A last word regarding the issue of swimming. Unfortunately there is little available in the stores today that is even half-way decent, or modest, though some have attempted to alleviate this deficiency by wearing t-shirts over their swimwear. But even more importantly perhaps are the oft-ignored ecclesiastical admonitions against the dangers of swimming in public places. Thus we are compelled to exhort families to make the effort to find a secluded place to swim amongst themselves – or not at all. Better to forgo the recreational (and optional) pleasure of swimming then to endanger the souls of one’s family (or of others)!

In concluding this brief review on the importance of dressing modestly, here are some pertinent quotes (and one illustrative example) – which far from being ancient, are of recent date, and thus ever new.
Quotes

G.K. Chesterton: “unless we live as we believe, we’ll end up believing as we live.”

Pope Pius XII: “The purity of souls living the supernatural life of grace is not preserved and will never be preserved without combat.” Many women and girls stubbornly persist in "following certain shameless styles like so many sheep." "They would certainly blush if they could guess the impression they make and the feeling they evoke in those who see them."

Padre Pio (+1968) repeatedly refused to absolve women who did not wear a skirt that extended at least 8 inches below the knee, while also insisting that they did not wear slacks.

Our Lady of Fatima:

The sins of the world are too great! The sins which lead most souls to hell are sins of the flesh! Certain fashions are going to be introduced which will offend Our Lord very much. Those who serve God should not follow these fashions. The Church has no fashions; Our Lord is always the same.


Footnote

1 January 12, 1930, S.C.C.



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Whilst I appreciate the point that the Lion of Campos was trying to make, it seems a "triumph of theory over practice".
I would insist that the women in my family wear pants instead of miniskirts, if that was the only two options.
But then again, I would not need to insist, as they would make the practical And modest decision themselves.
 
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Fr. J. L. Lafitte

used to say in regards to women wearing miniskirts, and the effect of it on others:

That on an attractive women it often led to a sin against purity, but
On an unattractive women it was always a sin against charity. :)

Not very P.C. I know, but hey, he was French. ;-)


 
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<div class="quote" timestamp="1391410707" author="@nick" source="/post/1974/thread"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-0">//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png</div></div><div class="quote_header">Feb 3, 2014 6:58:27 GMT @nick said:</div>Whilst I appreciate the point that the Lion of Campos was trying to make, it seems a "triumph of theory over practice".
I would insist that the women in my family wear pants instead of miniskirts, if that was the only two options.
But then again, I would not need to insist, as they would make the practical And modest decision themselves.<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>Yes I found it an interesting point to consider. One is a danger to the soul of males whilst the other endangers the thinking of perhaps both the wearer and others male and female
 
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Agrees to a point. But wonders, do they dress like that because of how they think, or do they think like that because of how they dress ?
I guess, to a bishop, the dangers of the distorted thinking ( for both of the sexes ) is perhaps a greater problem than any lust generated in the souls of sinful men. I can understand his perspective.
But I think nowadays that the thinking problem is beyond saving, in general terms, as modernism and liberalism is firmly entrenched to such a degree that we unaware of the severity of its contagion. Therefore, as society as a whole has gone under, all that is left is to attempt to minimize the amount of proximate occasions of sin to which we are exposed to, or expose others to.
Would also be interested in a women's perspective on this as well.
 
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Was it perhaps the 'March of the mini skirt' that led to the fall of Campos?








 
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<div class="quote" source="/post/1981/thread" author="@partyonregardless" timestamp="1391419586"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-0">//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png</div></div><div class="quote_header">Feb 3, 2014 9:26:26 GMT @partyonregardless said:</div>Was it perhaps the 'march of the mini skirt' that led to the fall of Campos?

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I don't know , perhaps it was a reflection that the bishop's battle was already lost, as in regards to preserving the catholic way of thinking in society as a whole ?





 
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<div class="quote" timestamp="1391419908" source="/post/1982/thread" author="@nick"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-0">//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png</div></div><div class="quote_header">Feb 3, 2014 9:31:48 GMT @nick said:</div><div class="quote" source="/post/1981/thread" author="@partyonregardless" timestamp="1391419586"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-0">//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png</div></div><div class="quote_header">Feb 3, 2014 9:26:26 GMT @partyonregardless said:</div>Was it perhaps the 'march of the mini skirt' that led to the fall of Campos?
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I don't know , perhaps it was a reflection that the bishop's battle was already lost, as in regards to preserving the catholic way of thinking in society as a whole ?

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OTOH, perhaps it was the march of the pants wearing females that led to its fall ? :)


Or even perhaps the march of the skirt wearing 'men' ? ;-)



 
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When I was involved in prolife rescue, we had to wear slacks under our skirts/dresses in case we were dragged off to jail, for modesty. Also, in extreme cold, I have worn slacks under my dress/skirt. If one does not drive, one can spend long hours in the cold awaiting transportation. Even thick tights might not suffice. Would this be against Catholic teaching if worn under a long skirt/dress?
 
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First Post ALERT!! Welcome to Cor-Mariae Mariaangleagrow!
 
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mariaangelagrow said:
When I was involved in prolife rescue, we had to wear slacks under our skirts/dresses in case we were dragged off to jail, for modesty. Also, in extreme cold, I have worn slacks under my dress/skirt. If one does not drive, one can spend long hours in the cold awaiting transportation. Even thick tights might not suffice. Would this be against Catholic teaching if worn under a long skirt/dress?
Good question. One would think it was not against the spirit of Catholic teaching as the modesty and femininity of the wearer is being preserved but I think I'll have to pass it up to someone more knowledgeable on such a technical question.

If you are on facebook I suggest you search for Colleen Hammond and pose her the question. I would be interested to know what her response might be.
 
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mariaangelagrow said:
When I was involved in prolife rescue, we had to wear slacks under our skirts/dresses in case we were dragged off to jail, for modesty. Also, in extreme cold, I have worn slacks under my dress/skirt. If one does not drive, one can spend long hours in the cold awaiting transportation. Even thick tights might not suffice. Would this be against Catholic teaching if worn under a long skirt/dress?
I really don't think it is againstn modesty! In the olden days, little girls used to wear those puffy pants under their dresses, for modesty!

 
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I agree with Nick, that "modernism and liberalism is firmly entrenched to such a degree that we are unaware of the severity of its contagion".

Sometimes I know that I think some clothes are quite fine and they might not be as fine as I believe, because we have been born with these fashions all around us and can sometimes no longer pass critical judgment.

BUT... certain priests, and Fr Lafitte has been named so I will definitely go with him, are literally obsessed with this question. I remember it being talked about in almost every single sermon and I grew very tired of it. Then everyone started judging themselves and each other by the length of their skirts and it became unbearable. That's the attitude I don't like.

I would suggest, be quite strict for yourself if you like, but let's not start calculating how many inches below the knee our dresses, or our neighbour's dresses are...

And for women who are working, you have to remember they cannot turn up at work in a Little House on the Prairie dress (that's how my husband describes one of my dresses!) They are my favourite, but you have to be weary of the circumstances, without being immodest, you can dress well.

And I think a woman should be attractively dressed for her husband too! He might get sick of seeing her wear long-sleeve men's shirts and skirts down to the ankle. It can be very modest but attractive!

Viva Cristo Rey
 

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mariaangelagrow said:
When I was involved in prolife rescue, we had to wear slacks under our skirts/dresses in case we were dragged off to jail, for modesty. Also, in extreme cold, I have worn slacks under my dress/skirt. If one does not drive, one can spend long hours in the cold awaiting transportation. Even thick tights might not suffice. Would this be against Catholic teaching if worn under a long skirt/dress?
NO.
 
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I will try to find it again if I can, but there are videos on YouTube and documents quoting the FreeMasons where they reveal that the new fashions are a deliberate plan to corrupt women and thereby men, the whole of society. It is quite clear and freely explained by them.
 
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Unbelievable... I just opened up a Big W catalogue, and on the children's page there's a book called "Rudie Nudie"... :-(
 
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If you can stand to listen to it, this is a link of it being read aloud. What kind of mother doesn't dress her children after their bath and lets them even go outside naked? An invitation to pedophiles, and it seems that they are trying to mainstream pedophilia these days. And this book was up for an award! God have mercy on us and Mary please teach our world modesty again. If we don't repent, we are doomed to great disaster. So much offense to Jesus and Mary, and the saints and our guardian angels.
 
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<div class="quote" timestamp="1391463388" author="@suzanne" source="/post/2001/thread"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-0">//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png</div></div><div class="quote_header">Feb 3, 2014 21:36:28 GMT @suzanne said:</div>I will try to find it again if I can, but there are videos on YouTube and documents quoting the FreeMasons where they reveal that the new fashions are a deliberate plan to corrupt women and thereby men, the whole of society. It is quite clear and freely explained by them.<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>www.michaeljournal.org/corruptionfashions.asp

I don't know if this article is from an approved publication, but it was what came up when I did a search for this. Please forgive if I've violated a rule.
 
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mariaangelagrow said:
<div class="quote" timestamp="1391463388" author="@suzanne" source="/post/2001/thread"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-0">//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png</div></div><div class="quote_header">Feb 3, 2014 21:36:28 GMT @suzanne said:</div>I will try to find it again if I can, but there are videos on YouTube and documents quoting the FreeMasons where they reveal that the new fashions are a deliberate plan to corrupt women and thereby men, the whole of society. It is quite clear and freely explained by them.
www.michaeljournal.org/corruptionfashions.asp

I don't know if this article is from an approved publication, but it was what came up when I did a search for this. Please forgive if I've violated a rule.<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>I found the same one! :)
 
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