Fr. Poisson history and deceit on The Catacombs

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MaryM

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There is a clear case of deceit on the part of the catacombs in regards to the reason Fr. Poisson is no longer with the FSSP.

"Fr. Joseph Poisson was released from the FSSP for being too traditional." -- Admin, "senior member" of the catacombs, July 25, 2018.

"Father Poisson was suspended by the Fraternity of St. Peter several years ago for failure to report to an assignment."
Nancy LaRoza
Administrative Assistant
Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter
North American District Headquarters

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Fr. Joseph Poisson -- ex-FSSP

born Jul 22, 1962
ordained Oct 26, 1996
(no bishop name identified)
http://wp.dol.ca/webportal/uploads/Directory_2010.pdf

I can find nothing about him between his ordination of 1996 and 2001, nor from Jan 2014 to 2018 when he showed up at OLMC, KY.

Conditionally ordained by Ambrose Moran, June/July 2018, now working under Moran at Fr. Pfeiffer's OLMC seminary.
http://cor-mariae.com/index.php?threads/moran-back-with-olmc-did-he-ever-leave.7721/

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"I know of no complaints against Fr. Poisson of that type [sexual or perverted]." -- Nancy LaRoza, Admin Asst. FSSP HQ

2005 sex abuse report listed these priests in the Philadelphia diocese:
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/pa_philadelphia/Philly_GJ_report.htm

Grand jury report on 300 pervert priests in six of eight Catholic dioceses in PA (Allentown, Scranton, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Greensburg, and Erie) will be out Aug 8 or Aug 14.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/pennsylvania-supreme-court-order-redacted-report-on-clergy-sexual-abuse-20180727.html?mobi=true

"It is, legal experts say, among the most expansive investigations into clergy abuse in the country, one that will provide a panoramic view into the church’s handling of the scandal, dating back decades, across most of the state."
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-grand-jury-report-catholic-church-diocese-shapiro-clergy-sex-abuse-children-20180617.html

note: Fr. Poisson held positions in both the Scranton and Harrisburg dioceses (see history below).

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July 2001 (last updated) Canada: St. Patrick Church, 31 Chestnut St., St. Catharines, ON L2T 1G8
http://holywar.org/latMess.html

Sept 2004 in Oklahoma City in residence
https://forums.catholic.com/t/terrible-first-rcia-meeting/6461/2

May 8, 2005 to January 7, 2007 Mater Dei Latin Mass Community
Saint Lawrence Chapel, 110 State Street, Harrisburg, PA 17101
http://sursumcorda.weebly.com/share-your-tlm-story.html http://sursumcorda.weebly.com/index.html

Dec 2007 prayer request Phoenix, AZ
http://www.phoenixlatinmass.org/docs/notitiae/20071223.pdf

Sept 2009 Reassigned
In Canada w/ Fr. Blust under Bishop F.B. Henry St. Anthony’s Parish, 5340 4th St. SW, Calgary, AB, T2V 0Z5
http://www.the-carillon.com/2009-pdfs/07-2009.pdf
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2009/12/please-read-letter-that-i-wrote.html

2010 in London
http://wp.dol.ca/webportal/uploads/Directory_2010.pdf

before Feb 2011 Chaplain in Calgary
https://fisheaters.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=42052

July 2011 diocese of London
http://wp.dol.ca/webportal/uploads/july172011.pdf

2011 Canada
DIOCESE OF HAMILTON UNDER BISHOP ANTHONY TONNOS
Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter
CHAPLAIN: FR. WEBB, FSSP
IN RESIDENCE: FR. POISSON, FSSP
Queen of Angels Oratory
75 ROLLS AVE,
ST. CATHARINES, ON L2N 1W3
PHONE: 905-680-0447 / FAX: 905-937-4826
and
St. Anne’s Roman Catholic Church
268 East Ave. Kitchener, Ontario
http://wikimapia.org/15031488/Queen-of-Angels-Oratory
https://kitchenerlatinmass.com/about/history/
http://web2.airmail.net/~/z1515275/EFMass/churches21.htm
http://wp.dol.ca/webportal/uploads/Directory_2010.pdf

May 2011 reassigned from Canada to Nigeria mission
https://www.facebook.com/185193784837373/posts/fr-joseph-poisson-will-be/207766452580106/
https://kitchenerlatinmass.com/about/history/

Oct 2012 Assistant pastor at St. Michael the Archangel Church, 1703 Jackson St., Scranton, PA 18504 tel (570) 961-1205; fax (570) 961-2284
https://fssp.com/fr-gregory-bartholomew-fssp-first-mass/
https://community.babycenter.com/post/a37810282/frustrated...priest_seems_uninterested_in_us_being_catholic?cpg=4

July 2013 still asst pastor at St. Michael in Scranton, PA
http://saintmichaelsrcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Eighth-Sunday-after-Pentecost-7-14-13.pdf

December 2013 still at St. Michael, Scranton, PA
http://dioceseofscrantonarchive.org/clight/CatholicLight12-26-13.pdf

Jan 2014 AZ prayer request
http://www.phoenixlatinmass.org/docs/notitiae/20140112.pdf

"Holy Sacrifice of the Mass" book
http://www.holysacrificeofthemass.com/index.html
Holy Hour (Father Joseph Poisson, F.S.S.P.)
http://www.holysacrificeofthemass.com/book-main.html#80
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note:
Bishop James Timlin retired from the Scranton Diocese on July 25, 2003. He was replaced by Joseph Francis Martino, a former Auxiliary Bishop of Philadelphia, consecrated by Anthony Cardinal Bevilacqua. On November 19, 2004 Bishop Martino issued a canonical decree of suppression against the Society of St. John.
 
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david

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MaryM, this is good work. I was wondering if you or any of the other forum members had similar information on Priests who are with or are not with Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko.

Novus Ordo Catholics can easily obtain information about their Priests from their respective parishes or dioceses. But in the world of Traditional Catholicism, it is not so easy to find information.

For example, we don't know much about the Priests who are with Bishop Williamson, e.g. Fr. Raphael, Fr. Voigt, Fr. Chazal, Fr. Picot, Bishop Zendejas, etc. or even Fr. Pfeiffer, Fr. Hewko, etc. All we are told is that they are Society Priests - nothing to the level of detail that you have provided.

It seems very few in Tradition want to know the histories of their respective priests, or perhaps they all know about this since they were in it from its early days.

In your charity, if you or others can create threads devoted to the above or newer Priests, that would help newcomers to Tradition.

+ In Jesus and Mary +
 
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MaryM

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david said:
MaryM, this is good work. I was wondering if you or any of the other forum members had similar information on Priests who are with or are not with Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko.

Novus Ordo Catholics can easily obtain information about their Priests from their respective parishes or dioceses. But in the world of Traditional Catholicism, it is not so easy to find information.

For example, we don't know much about the Priests who are with Bishop Williamson, e.g. Fr. Raphael, Fr. Voigt, Fr. Chazal, Fr. Picot, Bishop Zendejas, etc. or even Fr. Pfeiffer, Fr. Hewko, etc. All we are told is that they are Society Priests - nothing to the level of detail that you have provided.

It seems very few in Tradition want to know the histories of their respective priests, or perhaps they all know about this since they were in it from its early days.

In your charity, if you or others can create threads devoted to the above or newer Priests, that would help newcomers to Tradition.

+ In Jesus and Mary +
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Thank you.
I wish I had time, but I just don't.
There are so many independent priests out there, it would take a LONG time to do.

Here is a good starting point for you:
https://catholiccandle.neocities.org/priests.html

God bless.
 
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ruthy

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Posted by MaryM above:

"I know of no complaints against Fr. Poisson of that type [sexual or perverted]." -- Nancy LaRoza, Admin Asst. FSSP HQ

2005 sex abuse report listed these priests in the Philadelphia diocese:
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/pa_philadelphia/Philly_GJ_report.htm

Grand jury report on 300 pervert priests in six of eight Catholic dioceses in PA (Allentown, Scranton, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Greensburg, and Erie) will be out Aug 8 or Aug 14.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/b...n-clergy-sexual-abuse-20180727.html?mobi=true

I don't see Fr. Poisson's name listed on the priests list of sexual abuse.
 
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Admin

Administrator
ruthy said:
Posted by MaryM above:

"I know of no complaints against Fr. Poisson of that type [sexual or perverted]." -- Nancy LaRoza, Admin Asst. FSSP HQ

2005 sex abuse report listed these priests in the Philadelphia diocese:
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/pa_philadelphia/Philly_GJ_report.htm

Grand jury report on 300 pervert priests in six of eight Catholic dioceses in PA (Allentown, Scranton, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Greensburg, and Erie) will be out Aug 8 or Aug 14.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/b...n-clergy-sexual-abuse-20180727.html?mobi=true

I don't see Fr. Poisson's name listed on the priests list of sexual abuse.
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True. For the record nobody is accusing him of anything. The only point being made is that:
MaryM said:
There is a clear case of deceit on the part of the catacombs in regards to the reason Fr. Poisson is no longer with the FSSP.
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david

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ruthy said:
Posted by MaryM above:

"I know of no complaints against Fr. Poisson of that type [sexual or perverted]." -- Nancy LaRoza, Admin Asst. FSSP HQ

2005 sex abuse report listed these priests in the Philadelphia diocese:
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/pa_philadelphia/Philly_GJ_report.htm

Grand jury report on 300 pervert priests in six of eight Catholic dioceses in PA (Allentown, Scranton, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Greensburg, and Erie) will be out Aug 8 or Aug 14.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/b...n-clergy-sexual-abuse-20180727.html?mobi=true

I don't see Fr. Poisson's name listed on the priests list of sexual abuse.
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Ruthy, this is good work. As Catholics, we should be very cautious before suggesting that any person or Priest is guilty by virtue of their mere presence in a certain city or country. By this reasoning, Priests or Saints who visit or visited prisons as well as unsavory places, automatically stand accused.
 
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david

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Admin said:
See Resources section on Cor Mariae

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This list is helpful.

The author of Catholic Candle says "This list primarily focuses on whether there is any doubt concerning the validity of
the ordination of a priest whom the faithful might encounter."

But the same list includes Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko, with a caution "We advise the faithful to stay far away from him". Does the author of Catholic Candle imply that Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko's ordinations are invalid? This would put so many priests of SSPX validity in question.
 
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Administrator
david said:
MaryM, thank you for the link. I understand that it takes a long time to find information. Is there a reason why Fr. Poisson is being investigated?
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I do not think Father Poisson is being investigated. My understanding is that he lived in an area where many priests were named as being under investigation.

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Administrator
david said:
This list is helpful.

The author of Catholic Candle says "This list primarily focuses on whether there is any doubt concerning the validity of
the ordination of a priest whom the faithful might encounter."

But the same list includes Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko, with a caution "We advise the faithful to stay far away from him". Does the author of Catholic Candle imply that Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko's ordinations are invalid? This would put so many priests of SSPX validity in question.
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No David. The author of Catholic Candle recognises the validity of Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko's ordinations.

CC's contact email is : catholiccandle@gmail.com

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MaryM

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ruthy said:

I don't see Fr. Poisson's name listed on the priests list of sexual abuse.
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I don't either, thank God.

However, I do see an unusually large number of redacted names in the Scranton diocese section of the report.

Remember, the report was held in the grand jury for a week or two to give people listed on the report time to be able to write in and request their names redacted.

The report turns out to be not very useful, with half the names listed being deceased and so many redacted.
 
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MaryM

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More deceit from the catacombs...

http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1028/williamson-subverts-apostolic-mission-again?page=11

Maccabees is at it again.
Again, without repeating all the vile parts,
Maccabees forgets two things:

1. "BW must first convert or put aside his errors for service." The "errors" to which Macabees refers, I assume, is +Williamson's referral to the NO mass. Fr. Pfeiffer told me, "It's nothing new. He's [+Williamson's] been saying that for 20 years." Then why the insistence he now "put aside his error," when he has not changed one iota in over 20 years?

2. "Bishop Williamson told the priests to start one [seminary] in 2013 and whom he said he would support (clearly stated in this thread above and elsewhere). I do not know how many times we have to repeat it." If, in 2013, +Williamson told them to start a seminary, yet his beliefs have not changed one iota, why the fuss now? Furthermore, while superior to the Kentucky fathers, +Williamson also told Fr. Pfeiffer to get rid of Mr. Hernandez (aka Pablo) and mind the seminary (stop travelling so much). They did not obey their lawful superior, yet again, so their lawful superior distanced himself from them. Selective obedience does not make objective portals.

Macabees also declares: "Then what is Ecclesia Militan's issue? An apparent stark agenda to defame priests and persons who are not aligned with his moral precipice." It seems to me the Kentucky fathers need no help in this regard. They defame themselves and scandalize anyone with whom they come in contact. (I refer to their association with and support of pervert priests (including allowing a pervert priest contact with the laity), laicized priests, non-practicing-Catholc "lay exorcist", and non-bishop, as well as their three mottos: "We are the last vestige of the Catholic Church," "If you're not with us, you're against us," and "The end justifies the means.")

"You will regret the day you had anything to do with Fr. Pfeiffer." -- Fr. Chazal
 
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MaryM

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A first sermon of "fr."poisson in which he is pictured:

How can OLMC claim to be resistance if they accept a questionably legitimate priest? Clearly religious legitimacy and decency no longer matter to Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko, as long as they get the help they need.
 
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MaryM

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More deceit on the catacombs.

An interesting conversation between the admin and ecclesia militans reads:

Admin: "We have reasons for approaching Fr. Rafael with caution. Early in 2018 Fr. Rafael decried the OLMC Fathers for giving shelter to Fr. Roberts. He refused to speak to the OLMC Fathers about this, taking only the words of the laity on what to believe in that situation. It is not right to ignore one's fellow priests and turn only to the laity. It is for these reasons we approach Fr. Rafael with caution."

EM: "Hypothetically speaking, even if what you write is true, is that really sufficient to turn our backs on Fr. Rafael?"

The deceits:

1. OLMC did not only give shelter to Fr. Roberts. They allowed him access to unsuspecting faithful via masses said around the country on behalf of OLMC, and also had him teach the seminarians.

2. Fr. Raphael did NOT listen only to laity regarding Fr. Roberts. He certainly took into consideration the words of Fr. Perez who was the "bouncer" at the seminary Fr. Roberts attended and who saw the note Fr. Roberts wrote propositioning a fellow seminarian.

The OLMC fathers have not been involved in any of fr. Roberts' perverse activities, but only know him personally.

It is not right for the OLMC fathers to ignore one's fellow priests and turn only to themselves.

3. The admin of the catacombs does not approach Fr. Raphael "with caution". He approaches Fr. Raphael not at all. There is not ONE sermon by Fr. Raphael on the catacombs.


The catacombs, as well as all OLMC supporters, accept diocesan Fr. (?) Pancras, "Fr." Poisson (and therefore non-bishop Moran), pervert Fr. Roberts, laicised "Fr." Cordaro, and confessed and convicted pervert and laicised "Fr." Tetherow, but do not accept Fr. Raphael.

OLMC supporters don't know it yet, but they also support Thuc-line sedevecanti b. Macek who is bishop for "our good friend" "Fr." Tetherow. (Note: Fr. Pfeiffer had previously told me he rejected the entire Thuc-line.)

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It's all upsidedown in Wonderland.

Clearly religious legitimacy and decency no longer matter to Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko, as long as they get the help they need. What the OLMC priests fail to remember is that the end never justifies the means.
 
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