Fun with the Catechism

Discussion in 'Fun with the Catechism' started by Deleted member 149, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. Admin

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    That means every soul, Catholic and non-Catholic has a guardian angel from the moment of conception. At the moment of conception the whole person is present and alive in the tiny conceptus. That person cannot be alive without a soul.

  2. Admin

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    I have read somewhere that when a soul enters eternal life in heaven that the guardian angel leaves - sort of goes into anonymity. That would probably be so because one becomes angelic oneself replacing the angels that rebelled against God.

  3. Admin

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    What are the five notions of the Blessed Trinity?
  4. Deus Vult

    Deus Vult Well-Known Member

    I can think of three to start. Am I on the right track?
    1. creation
    2. redemption
    3. sanctification
  5. Admin

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    Good try DV - but you are on a different track. :)
  6. Admin

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    Father Pfeiffer spoke of the five notions in one of his conference talks. I had never heard of them, so I looked them up and found the following:

    A notion is the proper idea whereby we know a divine Person. Now the divine persons are multiplied by reason of their origin: and origin includes the idea of someone from whom another comes, and of someone that comes from another, and by these two modes a person can be known. Therefore the Person of the Father cannot be known by the fact that He is from another; but by the fact that He is from no one; and thus the notion that belongs to Him is called "innascibility." As the source of another, He can be known in two ways, because as the Son is from Him, the Father is known by the notion of "paternity"; and as the Holy Ghost is from Him, He is known by the notion of "common spiration." The Son can be known as begotten by another, and thus He is known by "filiation"; and also by another person proceeding from Him, the Holy Ghost, and thus He is known in the same way as the Father is known, by "common spiration." The Holy Ghost can be known by the fact that He is from another, or from others; thus He is known by "procession"; but not by the fact that another is from Him, as no divine person proceeds from Him.

    Therefore, there are five notions in God: "innascibility," "paternity," "filiation," "common spiration" and "procession." Of these only four are relations, for "innascibility" is not a relation, except by reduction, as will appear later (I:33:4 ad 3). Four only are properties. For "common spiration" is not a property; because it belongs to two persons. Three are personal notions--i.e. constituting persons, "paternity," "filiation," and "procession." "Common spiration" and "innascibility" are called notions of Persons, but not personal notions, as we shall explain further on (I:40:1 ad 1). ​