Is Cathinfo a subversive website?

Discussion in 'Resistance Movement (Member 149 is Machabees)' started by unbrandable, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. unbrandable

    unbrandable Well-Known Member

    Matthew at Cathinfo cannot be considered as part of the Resistance. Just look at the error he’s propagating now. It’s the same error that’s circulating in the neo-SSPX – the “sick Church” theory.

    In the thread at Cathinfo about Fr. Raphael, Matthew says:

    It makes much more sense that His Church is sick, mortally wounded, disabled, damaged, etc. and that it will be purified and healed someday. That is what I believe and subscribe to.”
    ( )

    This is neo-SSPX propaganda !!! How can Matthew claim to be “resistance”? What is the purpose of his website? Subversion? Is he just an opportunist out to make money?

    From Bishop Tissier’s article, Is there a conciliar church?, we read:

    A new thesis contrived by a theology professor at Écône named Fr. Gleize, maintains that there is no conciliar church in the sense of an organized society; the current crisis is rather an “illness” affecting the men of the Church, and the Church presently at Rome is the Catholic Church.”

    And below is a link to Fr. Gleize’s article, in which it says at the end:

    “And the same dual concept is expressed in the metaphor of an invalid, as used by Bishop Fellay at the last Congress of Courrier de Rome: “The Catholic Church is our Church. We have no other. There is no other. The Good God has allowed it to become diseased. For this reason we try to avoid contagion ourselves. But for all that we are not trying to form another Church. […] The disease is a disease; it is not the Church itself. It is within the Church, but the Church remains itself. […] Certainly, we must fight the disease. But this diseased Church is indeed the Church founded by Our Lord. It alone holds the promise of eternal life. To it alone has been promised that the gates of hell will not prevail42.” We can therefore speak of a ‘conciliar Church’, in order to indicate that among the leaders of the Church and among many of its faithful there is an orientation or a spirit that are foreign to the Church and obstruct its good.”

    Matthew also said:

    But he [Archbishop Lefebvre] certainly didn't spew the black and white nonsense (uttered by sedevacantists) that the conciliar church IS NOT the Catholic Church…”

    What nonsense and subversion! Here are the words of the true Archbishop Lefebvre:

    -“That is no longer the Catholic Church: that is the Conciliar Church with all its unpleasant consequences.” (One Year After the Consecrations, July-August 1989)

    -“It is impossible for Rome to remain indefinitely outside Tradition. It’s impossible… For the moment they are in rupture with their predecessors. This is impossible.They are no longer in the Catholic Church.” (Retreat Conference, September 4, 1987, Ecône)

    - “I should be very happy to be excommunicated from this Conciliar Church… It is a Church that I do not recognize. I belong to the Catholic Church.” (Interview July 30 1976, published in Minute, no. 747)

    -“What could be clearer? We must henceforth obey and be faithful to the Conciliar Church, no longer to the Catholic Church. Right there is our whole problem: we are suspended a divinis by the Conciliar Church, the Conciliar Church, to which we have no wish to belong! That Conciliar Church is a schismatic church because it breaks with the Catholic Church that has always been. It has its new dogmas, its new priesthood, its new institutions, its new worship…The Church that affirms such errors is at once schismatic and heretical. This Conciliar Church is, therefore, not Catholic. To whatever extent Pope, Bishops, priests, or the faithful adhere to this new church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church.” (Archbishop Lefebvre, Reflections on his suspension a divinis, July 29, 1976)
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  2. Martius

    Martius Guest

    Well said and more importantly, well supported -
    Great points, Unbrandable
  3. It is sad to read such digression of a mind; but God said over and over again in Holy Scripture he will show the proud and expose the haughty.

    The false resistance is in a nose dive...showing their true colors.

    Deo gratias!
  4. Admin

    Admin Administrator

    On CathInfo an OP states :
    (Emphasis added to above quote). Because Fr. Raphael says that 'Neither we can say that the Conciliar Church has something Catholic" proves Father is a sedevacantist. But Archbishop Lefebvre said the following ;

    Conclusion : Archbishop Lefebvre is a sedevacantist also.

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  5. Rose

    Rose Guest

    Aptly spoken by the Editor of the Recusant (#38) - dealing with just such issues (emphasis mine):

    As with many such things, smear tactics are used because they usually work, and often the lie is reproduced all around the world and the truth takes a lot longer to catch up, if it ever manages to catch up at all in some hard-to-reach places.

    Over the past couple of years, I have heard and read so many things about Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko, the dreaded “Pablo the Mexican”, the Resistance faithful in London, etc., which I know first-hand to be totally untrue. For most ordinary people, however, it is different. Not having to answer emails from Resistance faithful and priests all around the world, not travelling to, or getting to meet people from, all over the Resistance world, they understandable will not have the means or experience to spot the lie when it first appears, which means that those of us who do ought really to be more vigilant on their behalf. At times is seems as though one could spend one’s entire time running round putting out fires started by the opposition, and one is tempted to wonder whether, after a while, it will still really be necessary? Surely these people can only tell so many lies before sensible people begin to catch on and work out the truth for themselves? The answer, it seems, is not necessarily.

    Remember the one about Pablo the Mexican worshipping demons, putting curses on people and embezzling all of Fr. Pfeiffer’s money? Two or more years later and not one witness of anything approaching such behaviour, including people who were at the seminary, has been produced. Why might that be? And if the embezzlement or stealing money were true, ‘Our Lady of Mount Carmel’ would cease to operate pretty quickly! And yet months or even years later, there is still money to fund things, Fr. Pfeiffer has not been declared bankrupt, Pablo is not living on a private island in the Caribbean… how this be? Answer: it can’t. It isn’t.

    What about the internet “wisdom” that the reason for there being two rival Resistance Masses in London was because Greg Taylor, and perhaps one or two others, got too big for their boots and could not stand the fact the Bishop Williamson wouldn’t “red light” the SSPX, so they left to start a rival non-Williamson organisation? Perhaps some people have forgotten or don’t remember it now, in light of all that has happened in between. But there was a time when the world did not know about Fr. Abraham, and when the doctrinal heterodoxy of the Bishop - New Miracles of the grace-giving Novus Ordo included - was a burden borne in silence by those who knew the truth but who felt that such a scandal was the last thing the world needed right now, if at all it could be avoided (it turns out it couldn’t, alas…)

    The trouble is always that telling the truth is harder than telling a lie. Often it is more complicated or nuanced, and does not fit into a small, convenient soundbite. Nobody is usually that interested in it either, perhaps because it doesn’t make such an attention-grabbing headline. There is also the sad fact that a lot of the people telling the lies have an undeclared motive in silencing any dissenting voices (why do the words “Cathinfo” and “dollars” come to mind..?).
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  6. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    ...ABLF3/ Samuel's latest tirade also come to mind - paraphrasing here: CM cannot post my comments, only CI, because they are the only 'honest' ones. I had to read and re-read that one to believe that I was really reading those wordso_O


    How does Samuel expect anyone to take him seriously - lauding CI?
    CI's reputation is mud. Its owner goes to enormous lengths to control the narrative. His latest assault on Fr. Raphael is proof positive. Again, parapharasing here - Matthew ?yesterday begins a new thread stating he cannot name the source but we should believe Matthew that its reputable (hahaha) and then proceeds a laundry list of every vice and attributing them all to either Fr. Raphael himself or those close to him. Every major vice.

    No proof mind you, just slander and calumny.

    But the good Lord tells us we reap what we sow. Just have to sit back and watch the ending.
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  7. Lateran

    Lateran Well-Known Member

    You can not say that the conciliar church is the Catholic Church because they do not have a Catholic Pope. The declarations of Vatican II make it clear that their meaning and understanding of a Pope is in no way the meaning and understanding of the Catholic Church. And thus can not be the same Church as declared by Jesus Christ as His Church, which is the Catholic Church.

    The governance of the conciliar church is a dictatorship of the bureaucracy of loosely connected synods of bishops. The Pope is another pretension to deceive the Novus Ordo pew sitters, like a mascot. Modernists are deceivers.

    The only people who hold the Pope in true regard are the traditional Catholics. (genuine traditional Catholics know who they are by their Faith)

    The order of bishops which succeeds to the college of the apostles and gives this apostolic body continued existence is also the subject of supreme and full power over the universal Church, provided we understand this body together with its head the Roman pontiff. (Lumen Gentium No. 22 promulgated Nov. 1964)

    And connected to this heresy is

    The bishops by virtue of their sacramental consecration and hierarchical communion with the head of the college and its other members are constituted as members of the Episcopal body. The order of bishops is the successor to the college of the apostles. (Christus Dominus No. 4 promulgated Oct. 1965)

    Vatican II's decree on ecumenism also implicitly denies the dogma that Popes possess supreme power in the universal Church by divine right. It teaches that in the past the Popes have acted by common consent as moderators.

    Unitatis redintegratio # 14:

    "For many centuries the Churches of the east and the west followed their separate ways though linked in a union of faith and sacramental life; the Roman See by common consent acted as guide when disagreements arose between them over matters of faith and discipline."

    These words clearly imply that the Popes did not hold supreme authority over all the churches in the East with whom they were united in faith. It implies that the Holy See merely acted as a moderator when agreed upon by common consent, not by divine institution. And this heretical and schismatical idea, that a Pope's jurisdiction comes from the consent of the Faithful, is condemned by the Magisterium. In fact, notice how the words of Pope Pius XI, in condemning this very heresy, apply exactly to the above paragraph in Vatican II's decree on ecumenism.

    Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos (# 7), Jan. 6, 1928, speaking of heretics:

    "Among them there indeed are some, though few, who grant to the Roman Pontiff a primacy of honor or even a certain jurisdiction or power, but this, however, they consider not to arise from the divine law but from the consent of the faithful."
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  8. Lateran

    Lateran Well-Known Member

    And the 400+ SSPX priests and half a million SSPX pew sitters believe they are joining the Catholic Church on the word of bad bishops. But because they do not know what the Catholic Church teaches they are now cutting their own throat.

    When they join this conciliar church they automatically accept the conciliar teachings and worse than sedevacantists they will deny the Primacy of Peter and be in heresy and schism.
  9. Martius

    Martius Guest

    Some can't play nice in the sandbox :)

    Its ok - they think they are punishing us but really they are continuing to dig their own graves...showing their true colors. Samuel has a few random posters besides himself and CI is nothing but what Fr. Hewko aptly calls, a cesspool...
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  10. The continuance of the thought police...

    Their kidding, right?

    Aligning with fringes as "honest" takes the cake.
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  11. Lateran

    Lateran Well-Known Member

    Matthew says:
    It makes much more sense that His Church is sick, mortally wounded, disabled, damaged, etc. and that it will be purified and healed someday. That is what I believe and subscribe to.”

    St. Augustine teaches: (Tractate 15 (John 4:1-42))
    "Even as Christ," says he, "loved the Church, and gave Himself for it, purifying it with the washing of water by the Word, that He might present to Himself a glorious Church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing." Ephesians 5:25-27

    Most Certainly, The Church is holy and indefectable, yesterday, today and forever!
    This is what I believe and know, because I have heard it from the Apostle of Christ.
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  12. Vincent

    Vincent Well-Known Member

    Don't worry – this picture is from the above web address – Matthew has no problem with the world seeing him or his family. It's not a private photo...
    Can it be that Matthew – who spewed forth such contempt for those who were home-aloners in the true resistance (patiently waiting until their turn on the Mass circuit) – is himself now a home-aloner?

    His chapel bulletins haven't showed a Sunday Mass since at least October of 2016. Where is all his smugness now? Oh I plainly and distinctly recall how he reviled anyone who didn't have regular Sunday Mass. Utter contempt was all he could muster. The main home page states there is Mass every Sunday at 4pm, but the Chapel Bulletins all state the following (emphasis Matthew's):

    Check Website For Updates – For the near-term future, there will be disruptions to the normal Mass schedule: weekly Mass at 4:00 PM every Sunday at St. Dominic’s is NOT guaranteed. For the latest information, please check our website or read the e-mail bulletin. These sources will always have the very latest information. If you are not on the chapel’s e-mail list yet, please give Matthew your e-mail address (or phone number) so you can be kept in the loop.

    Speaking of Fr. Zendejas – read Matthew's awesome tribute:

    Fr. Gerardo Zendejas spent many years building up a traditional chapel in Ridgefield, CT which was a priory (place for priests to live), chapel, school, and Ignatian Retreat center. Fr. Zendejas continues to use the centuries-old, silent Ignatian Retreats as his main tool to strengthen his flock in the timeless Catholic Faith. Fr. Zendejas also makes use of all the other means priests have always used to sanctify their flock, namely Confession, offering the Tridentine Mass, sermons given during Mass, his personal example, fasting, prayer, etc.

    Fr. Zendejas is currently working to set up several Traditional Latin Mass chapels around the United States, to help Catholics keep the Faith and bolster their resistance to Modernism. Modernism is an actual heresy condemned over 100 years ago by Pope St. Pius X.”

    Nauseating, isn't it?
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  13. Rose

    Rose Guest

    Another old saying - what goes around, comes around.

    Matthew has his chapel listed twice here:

    Since his (and Bishop Williamson's) bar is set very low in terms of fulfilling one's Sunday obligation, he should be able to find a plethora of latin Masses. Their only prerequisite seems to be to find a (very subjective decision) "devout" priest. That priest can be SSPX, Sedevacantist, or perhaps even Anglican. Choose your poison...its a free-for-all when you allow for any version (Protestant or otherwise) of the Latin Mass. How the many martyrs who died for the true Faith would cover their faces in shame at such an embrace of ecumenism.

    The proof is Matthew's latest post/tirade against Fr. Raphael - who conveniently cannot defend himself, nor can anyone else defend him because they have all been banned from CI -

    "For those who don't know me, I would choose (for Mass, confession, spiritual direction, etc.) a good, holy sedevacantist priest any day over a scheming, opportunist, or wicked R&R priest.

    So I practice what I preach.

    I can't stand malicious behavior. Lying, slandering fellow trads, willfully distorting their words, scheming, etc. Those things don't happen by weakness or by accident. They happen by one's own wicked, willful choices."

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  14. Again and again Matthew is clear he operates without the principle of the faith; only his view of externals. For which kicked him out of the old-sspx seminary.

    Matthew said:
    "For those who don't know me, I would choose (for Mass, confession, spiritual direction, etc.) a good, holy sedevacantist priest any day over a scheming, opportunist, or wicked R&R priest.

    "So I practice what I preach."

    Misguided principles and its morals can only follow with such darkness mirrored on his CI bullhorn.

    So who would matthew go to when there is only a "scheming, opportunist, or wicked sedevacantist priest"?

    And then...

    He gives quite a disfunctional argument.
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  15. Defender

    Defender Member

    More proof of Cathinfo being liberal.

    In the thread, “Every time someone says the Resistance shouldn’t fight, send it to Fr. Pfeiffer,

    Matthew says that “…Father Pfeiffer’s followers [are] wasting their time (and ammunition) by firing at fellow Resistance supporters.”

    I replied, “They’re not ‘firing at fellow Resistance supporters,’ they’re firing at error,” and then I put the quote of Mgr. de Segur (a bishop who fought against liberalism in the 19th century).

    Matthew took away the quote only and banned me. I guess the quote was too revealing and too damaging to them.

    Here is the quote that was taken off Cathinfo:

    Mgr. de Ségur from The Good Combat for the Faith (1872):

    "Therefore, to preserve the gift of faith, we must fight; we are moving forward, surrounded by enemies: bad examples, the contagion of indifference, of current errors, of naturalism, and of the spirit of revolt which blows so powerfully today from all sides. We have to fear and to avoid the traps of bad doctrines, of false politics, of false teachings, of unwholesome reading. And, moreover, we have to fight against interior enemies that are no less dangerous, all of which, if we let them, would be able first to alter, then obscure, then diminish, then finally extinguish, in our baptized souls, the divine light of faith.

    What a combat! It extends over the entire line of our existence. Not one point is always and completely safe; not one age, not one position. We must fight; it is the law. He who puts down his weapons is lost; and, as long as life lasts, the enemy is there, seeking, under a thousand forms, to lead us into its traps and to make us lose first the life of faith, then faith itself."
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  16. Scarlet Pimpernel

    Scarlet Pimpernel Well-Known Member

    Bless you Defender for you did the right thing. You're not responsible for shameful behavior on CI.
    God knows and He sees your good heart.
    Welcome to Cor Mariae - the Heart of Mary! She takes care of things here.
  17. unbrandable

    unbrandable Well-Known Member

    Matthew has just admitted that Cathinfo is not part of the true Resistance movement.

    It’s good to see him realizing what we already knew. Here are his words, posted yesterday (June 6, 2017):

    This is a Traditional Catholic forum, with an “official position” leaning towards [emphasis mine] the SSPX Resistance.”

    Note the words “leaning towards” which Matthew has to use, since his website is so contaminated with error. Let’s hope that Matthew will also come to realize the words of Our Lord: “He that is not with me, is against me...” (Matt 12:30).

    People should be wary and distrustful of Cathinfo and have nothing to do with it, since it only “leans towards” the position and teachings of Archbishop Lefebvre, which are found unaltered only in the True Resistance.
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  18. Martius

    Martius Guest

    Is that the same as the Protestants who pick and choose what in Holy Scripture to lean towards while outright rejecting other parts?

    Ultimately, Matthew has proven over and over, he strongly leans toward the false resistance bishops and priests. And as long as Archbishop Lefebvre doesn't contradict them, he leans towards the Archbishop too.

    "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold, nor hot. I would thou wert cold, or hot.
    But because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold, nor hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth." Apocalypse 3:15-18

  19. Not only does Matthew keep deleting anything of right reason that doesn’t fit his narrative, he is on another rant saying:

    "Bishop Williamson is completely holding to the Archbishop's position 100%."

    How does that square with the words of Bishop Williamson here?

    Added to the twilight, Matthew says:

    P.S. This is a Traditional Catholic forum, with an "official position" leaning towards the SSPX Resistance.

    What this forum ISN'T:

    * general malcontent's forum,
    [That is a surprise]

    * "The Novus Ordo sucks, we're all doomed!" forum [Meaning, he accepts the principle and legality of the novus ordo]

    * "The Novus Ordo AND the Traditional movement are awful!" forum [Same as above, he accepts the ecumenism of other religions]

    * "All bishops/priests in Tradition have gone off course, but I alone know how to fix it!" forum [So Bishop Fellay is still in right reason and correct in what he is doing betraying the Church; the sede bishops are right, all the bishops are right even though they contradict one another. (sic) But Matthew's voice stands alone guiding the way. Or is it all about advertising and profits to keep his site going with sensationalism and gossip?]

    * Forum for those with delusions of grandeur [Seems to be a meme for CI]
    Remembering also Matthew said he "is proud to be a Trad-ecumenist". Yup, that sums up his belief in a catholic religion. He "Officially" likes all ecumenist bishops. Including his special bias -Bishop Williamson.

    You can't make this stuff up...but Matthew can.
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  20. sarto

    sarto Member

    This sums up Matthew McD and C(dis)I in a nutshell:
    1) I am chapel coordinator of "my" personal pole barn chapel that I built (converted) and direct.
    2) I decide which priests come to say Mass at My chapel.
    3) My chapel has Chrism Masses and a new concrete sidewalk.
    4) My chapel hosts the authentic Bishops Z & W
    5) I control the dialog and opinions on My Forum
    6) My Forum is the authentic Resistance because it is supported by My Bishop(s)
    7) 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = I control the narrative of the true SSPX remnant.

    Can anyone spell egomaniac?
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