Archived List of B. Williamson's Deconstruction of Catholic Faith

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  1. Admin

    Admin Moderator Staff Member

    Re-posted

    "Catholics have a strict right to know the doctrine of their priests and bishops."

    (See : Archbishop Lefebvre and the Vatican)​

    Bishop Williamson can speak for himself!

    This is an archived list of Bishop Williamson’s quotes word for word placed in their related categories.

    This archived list, unfortunate as it is, will be updated and edited regularly when new quotes are found showing the evolved thoughts and actions of Bishop Williamson's position entrenched with independence and trad-ecumenism.

    The reader can judge for themselves.

    From the help of others, these quotes are taken from his many Conferences, his blog - Eleison Comments, Letters to faithful, showing a consistent pattern and pertinacity that is very troubling to say the least.

    [Note: I will highlight in green a word [NEW] what is updated since original posting.]
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    Promoting the new religion:
    • While the new religion is false, is dangerous, and it strangles grace, and it’s helping many people to lose the faith, at the same time there are cases where it can be used and is used to build the faith.(Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “Stay away from the Novus Ordo. But exceptionally, if you’re watching and praying, even there you may find the grace of God. If you do, make use of it in order to sanctify your soul.” (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “The golden rule is this. The absolute rule of rules seems to me be this. Do whatever you need to nourish your faith.” (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "In principle the NOM is a key part of the new religion. Which is a major part of the worldwide apostasy of today." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "N.O. priests are nourishing and building the faith in their N.O. parish."
    • "The new religion, is false, it's dangerous and it strangles grace. And it's helping many people to lose the faith. At the same time there are still cases where it's been, it can be used and is used still to build the faith." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "Stay away from the Novus Ordo, but exceptionally, if you're watching and praying, even there you may find the grace of God. If you do, make use of it in order to sanctify your soul." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “I do not say to everybody inside the Novus Ordo, priests and laity, I don’t say: ‘You’ve got to get out!’” (Bp. Williamson, conference in St. Catherine’s, Ontario, Canada, 5th November 2014)
    • “Therefore the NOM and the Novus Ordo Church as a whole are dangerous for the Faith, and Catholics are right who have clung to Tradition to avoid the danger. But as they have had to put a distance between themselves and the mainstream Church, so they have exposed themselves to the opposite danger of an isolation leading to a sectarian and even pharisaical spirit, disconnected from reality.” (Bp. Williamson, ‘Eleison Comments’ #438, 5th December 2015)

    Promoting the Rite of the NOM:
    • “Therefore there are cases when even the Novus Ordo Mass can be attended with an effect of building one’s faith instead of losing it.” (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “If they can trust their own judgement, that attending the New Mass will do them more good than harm spiritually.” (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “Do whatever you need to nourish your faith.” (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “Ask a priest you trust and heed his advice — maybe.”; “Decide for yourself.”; “If you can trust your own judgment, use your own judgment.” (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “There are Eucharistic miracles [beyond transubstantiation] in the New Mass.” (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "I would say that in certain circumstances like those you mention (i.e. you go to the Latin mass and occasionally go to the NOM during the week because you think the priest is saying the NOM “reverently”), exceptionally if you're not going to scandalize anybody. Because they know that you are a Catholic. They know that you're sticking with the true faith. And then they see you at the new mass, the conclusion that many of them will draw is , the new mass is okay because she's going. We've gotta be careful of that. So you've gotta be careful." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "There's nothing in the text of the new mass which makes it inevitably invalid." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "Novus ordo priests celebrate Masses as decently as possible." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "The essential PRINCIPLE is do whatever you need to keep the faith." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "If a priest that you trust says stay absolutely away from the new mass, well if you trust him, that might be the advice to take. Or if he says stay absolutely away from the mass of this priest, because I know that he's misleading,- that 's the advice to follow." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "You make your own judgements." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "Therefore, there are cases when even the Nouv Ordo Mass can be attended with an effect of building ones faith, instead of losing it." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "That's almost heresy within tradition." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "But I hope it's clear that I don't therefore say the NOM is good or the N.O. religion is good, or all N.O. priests are good. It's not the case. Obviously, not the case." [But it still can build your faith?] (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "But it does harm in itself. There's no doubt about that. It's a rite designed to undermine Catholic's faith and to make them believe in man and to stop -- to turn their belief away from God towards man." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "The whole of the new religion and the NOM which is an essential part of the new religion, is designed to get you away from the Catholic faith and that's why the rule of thumb is and will remain, stay away from the NOM." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "If they can trust their own judgement, that attending this mass will do them more good than harm, spiritually." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • "Therefore, I will not say every single person must stay away from every single NOM." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “The Novus Ordo Mass, like Vatican II which it followed, is ambiguous, favours heresy and has led numberless souls out of the Church … Doctrinally, the Novus Ordo Mass is ambiguous, poised between the religion of God and the Conciliar religion of man. Now in matters of faith, ambiguity is deadly, being normally designed to undermine the Faith, as the Novus Ordo Mass frequently does. But as ambiguity is precisely open to two interpretations, so the Novus Ordo Mass does not absolutely exclude the old religion.” (Bp. Williamson, ‘Eleison Comments’, #437, 30th November 2015)
    • “So does it not make sense that in punishment of their modern worldliness these sheep would broadly lose the true rite of Mass, while in reward of their desire for Mass they would not lose every valid Mass?” Result: The Novus Ordo Mass is not as good as the Traditional Mass, but it is still better than nothing. (‘Eleison Comments’ #437, 30th November 2015)
    • “...while since the 1960’s a mass of Catholic sheep have become too worldly to deserve to keep the true rite of Mass, [yet] they have loved the Mass enough not to lose it altogether.” “The Novus Ordo Mass may have been allowed by God to make it easier for Catholics to leave the Faith if they wanted to, but not impossible to keep it if they wanted to.” (‘Eleison Comments’ #438, 30th November 2015)
    Promoting the Eucharistic “miracles” beyond transubstantiation in the new mass:
    • "There have been Eucharistic miracles with the NOM…and still according." (Bishop Williamson, conference in Mahopac NY (usa), June 2015)
    • “Facts are stubborn - as long as they are facts. If readers doubt that the eucharistic miracle of 1996 in Buenos Aires is a fact, let them undertake their own research... But if their research of that case leaves them unconvinced, then let them look up the parallel case of Sokólka in Poland, where a whole centre of pilgrimage has arisen around a eucharistic miracle of 2008. And a little more Internet research would surely discover accounts of more such Novus Ordo miracles, with at least some of them being authentic.” (‘Eleison Comments’ #437, 30th November 2015)
    • However, these [Novus Ordo] miracles – always assuming they are authentic – have lessons also for the Catholics of Tradition … ” (‘Eleison Comments’ #437, 30th November 2015)
    Promoting the Conciliar Church:
    • "There is still something Catholic in the conciliar church, so it’s wrong for us to reject it completely.” (Bp. Williamson, Eleison Comments #447)
    • "Therefore the NOM and the Novus Ordo Church as a whole are dangerous for the Faith, and Catholics are right who have clung to Tradition to avoid the danger. But as they have had to put a distance between themselves and the mainstream Church, so they have exposed themselves to the opposite danger of an isolation leading to a sectarian and even pharisaical spirit, disconnected from reality.(Bp. Williamson, ‘Eleison Comments’ #438, 5th December 2015)
    • [NEW] Sermon for the first Pontifical mass of Bishop Zendejas, May 12, 2017, saying, God and his Church can be, and is, corrupt.
    "The Catholic Church has gone conciliar, it's still the church, even though it is rotten with conciliarism with Vatican II." (Bishop Williamson, sermon for Bishop Zendejas's first pontifical High Mass, @ minute 24:32, www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr7hlngdFTo)


    Promoting "Ecumenism":

    • "Our Lord said seek and you shall find; knock and it will be open to you. If you look for the truth, and you look for the true worship of God, you may find some of it in an Anglican Church. But you start talking to the minister, probably his principles are most likely are not completely true.” (Bishop Richard Williamson: 'The Existence of God: The Pre-requisite for all Politics', July 2016, @1:19:09, www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQalQor5itQ


    Promoting Universal Salvation and Indifferentism:
    • [NEW] "To be a catholic rather than a non-catholic because a catholic has a much greater chance to get to heaven." (Bishop Williamson, Banquet speech after consecrating Bishop Zendejas, May 12, 2017, www.youtube.com/watch?v=hetZgRGZafA ).
    • [NEW] "God will lead towards us the souls that He chooses. And if there isn't a grace given by God to a soul to come anywhere near us, that soul is not going to understand what we are up to. It takes a special grace for a soul today to understand what is going on. And so I don't think we need to be too concerned to bring souls towards us because people just don't understand today. They don't have ears to hear." (Bishop Williamson, Banquet speech after consecrating Bishop Zendejas, May 12, 2017, www.youtube.com/watch?v=hetZgRGZafA ).
    • [NEW] "...the Apostles only left three means to them: example, charity, and prayer...I don't think much more will fly. This dog won't hunt. (Bishop Williamson, Banquet speech after consecrating Bishop Zendejas, May 12, 2017).
    • [NEW] "May God bless Bishop Zendejas. May God bless all Catholics in whatever part of the church who are keeping the faith despite everything. Not only inside Tradition. Let us not believe that tradition has a monopoly on Catholicism. Catholicism is much much more than the dear movement of tradition of today. May our Lady look after all Catholics in whatever part of the church they are found." (Bishop Williamson, Sermon for the first Pontifical mass of Bishop Zendejas, May 12, 2017, @ minute 34:31, www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr7hlngdFTo )
    • [NEW] "Such are the disputes, divisions, confusion and chaos in Catholic hearts and minds being caused by the churchmen’s hollowing out of their authority by their abandoning of God’s Truth, that many a clear-sighted Catholic can already be preferring to keep silent rather than attempt to argue or to teach. A mass of modern minds are so incapable any longer of thinking or reasoning that any attempt to dispel their errors can seem to risk only increasing their confusion." (Bishop Williamson, Eleison Comments, #513)
    • [NEW] Bishop Williamson penned another disparaged delivery of passiveness on the Blood of Christ. Stating, that he, the other bishops, and the new bishop Zendejas "has no ambition either to save or to convert either the Newchurch or the Newsociety." (Eleison Comments, #514)
    • “Therefore, in my opinion, be content to attend the least contaminated Tridentine Mass that there is any-where near you…” (Bishop Williamson, Eleison Comments #505)
    Promoting the Catholic Church is OUTSIDE the Traditional movement:
    • [NEW] "Let us not believe that tradition has a monopoly on Catholicism. Catholicism is much much more than the dear movement of tradition of today. May our Lady look after all Catholics in whatever part of the church they are found." (Bishop Williamson, Sermon for the first Pontifical mass of Bishop Zendejas, May 12, 2017, www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr7hlngdFTo )
    • [NEW] Consistent with what he said on Jan. 7, 2017 (EC #495), Tradition is only a "part of the Catholic Church":
    "In today’s crisis of the Church, of an unprecedented gravity in all Church history, it is most important that Catholics should give due importance both to the Traditional movement and to the Catholic Church outside the Traditional movement." (Bishop Williamson, Eleison Comments, #495)

    Separating again the Church as one and the “traditional movement” as another.

    “Tradition in its broadest sense, meaning everything which Our Lord entrusted to his Church to be handed down ( tradendum in Latin) to world’s end, is indispensable to the Church, and the Traditional movement has played an indispensable part in preserving Traditional doctrine and sacraments from their destruction by the Conciliar Revolution over the last half-century.” (Bishop Williamson, Eleison Comments, #495)

    http://cor-mariae.com/index.php?threads/bp-williamson-makes-war-against-tradition-again.4774/
    • “Therefore, in my opinion, be content to attend the least contaminated Tridentine Mass that there is any-where near you…” (Bishop Williamson, Eleison Comments #505)
    Promoting "Maria Valtora", a condemned book on the Church's INDEX:

    [Here is another good source for quotes:]
     
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  2. Martius

    Martius Guest


    Fr. Hesse:

    "I was not ordained in the New Rite in order to swindle myself into the priesthood, and I do not consider Traditional priests who say the Old Mass but get themselves ordained by Novus Ordo bishops serious.

    Priests who celebrate the Old Mass should be ordained by bishops who celebrate the Old Mass, who only celebrate the Old Mass, because if you reject the New Mass, you have to have good reasons. It is not sufficient and is not allowed to reject the New Mass simply because you don’t like it. I reject the New Mass because it is against the proven Will of God, it is illicit and it is conducing towards heresy. In some translations it is directly heretical. I reject the New Mass because of reasons of Faith.

    Anybody who says that you can accept Vatican II and to a point you can accept the New Rite - he does not reject the New Mass for reasons of Faith. He rejects the New Mass because he does not like it or because he has what they call ‘theological reasons’. They are running a museum, that’s all.

    If you run a museum, it doesn’t matter who ordains you. But if you don’t, if you say the New Mass is part of another Church - which is the only answer to the Indefectibility of the Church and the Infallibility of the Church - you say that Vatican II is not Catholic, you say the New Mass is not Catholic - then you have to celebrate the Old Mass for reasons of Faith.

    It’s impossible to believe in the Indefectibility of the Church and the Infallibility of the Church, and at the same time reject the New Mass which the Pope celebrates every day. Impossible! There is only one solution to this problem - and this is not the solution in the sense of finding a way out - it is a solution in the sense of finding what is true.

    Now, the New Mass is not part of the Latin Rite. It is not part of the Catholic Church. It does not belong to the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is still indefectible. The Catholic Church is still infallible. But the priests who say the New Mass are not part of the Catholic Church - objectively, mind you. The great vast majority of priests who celebrate the New Mass think this is what they have to do - that does not put them subjectively outside the Church." Source
     
  3. Martius

    Martius Guest

    Fr Hesse continues:

    "The Infallibility of the Church is still there because priests who celebrate the New Mass, and
    especially the priests who foster the New Mass and defend it, they are outside the Church objectively. How God will judge them, I don’t know and it’s none of my business. ’]udge not that you may not be judged’. Anybody who says that Fr. Hesse said they are all in heresy and will all go to Hell is committing a grave sin against the 8th Commandment. I just said - objectively - they are outside the Church. Subjectively - I don’t know. I don’t want to know, God only can judge.

    Anybody who does not contradict Tradition belongs to the Catholic Church. Anybody who contradicts Tradition does not belong to the Catholic Church.

    It’s people like the bishops who say the New Mass who put themselves outside of the Church.

    Priests who celebrate the Old Mass, not for reasons of Faith but because they just prefer it, they put themselves objectively outside of the Church.

    Anybody who signs Vatican II puts himself objectively outside of the Church. You cannot sign heresy. You must not.

    You cannot defend Vatican II. I’ve tried for 10 years to interpret Vatican II in a Catholic way. It’s not possible. It’s in direct contradiction to Tradition. It’s in direct contradiction to the Magisterium. The new Liturgy will be judged and discarded by the Church."
     
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